Comments on: RIM: Looking Over the Wrong Shoulder? http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2005/11/28/rim-looking-over-the-wrong-shoulder/ Russell Buckley and Carlo Longino on mobile technology. Tue, 22 May 2012 09:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mobile Enterprise Weblog http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2005/11/28/rim-looking-over-the-wrong-shoulder/comment-page-1/#comment-72 Mobile Enterprise Weblog Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:58:36 +0000 http://p6.hostingprod.com/@mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=63#comment-72 <strong>Contemplating Life Without BlackBerry</strong> December 1, 2005 Several years ago, Microsoft managed to capture the essence of imagination with a simple but effective tagline that asked, Where do you want to go today? This question suggested both possibility and individual empowerment - ideas that Contemplating Life Without BlackBerry

December 1, 2005 Several years ago, Microsoft managed to capture the essence of imagination with a simple but effective tagline that asked, Where do you want to go today? This question suggested both possibility and individual empowerment – ideas that

]]> By: Mobile Enterprise Weblog http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2005/11/28/rim-looking-over-the-wrong-shoulder/comment-page-1/#comment-71 Mobile Enterprise Weblog Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:48:18 +0000 http://p6.hostingprod.com/@mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=63#comment-71 <strong>Contemplating Life Without BlackBerry</strong> December 1, 2005 Several years ago, Microsoft managed to capture the essence of imagination with a simple but effective tagline that asked , Where do you want to go today? This question suggested both possibility and individual empowerment - ideas Contemplating Life Without BlackBerry

December 1, 2005 Several years ago, Microsoft managed to capture the essence of imagination with a simple but effective tagline that asked , Where do you want to go today? This question suggested both possibility and individual empowerment – ideas

]]> By: Daniel Taylor http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2005/11/28/rim-looking-over-the-wrong-shoulder/comment-page-1/#comment-68 Daniel Taylor Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:01:37 +0000 http://p6.hostingprod.com/@mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=63#comment-68 Carlo - it's good to see some sensible analysis of this growing market. Last year, I arrived at a similar conclusion when I asked <a href="http://mobileenterprise.typepad.com/weblog/2005/01/is_visto_smokin.html" rel="nofollow">"Can Visto Make Their Numbers?"</a> or at least the numbers they were predicting last year.Enrique makes some great points in his comment, and I'd like to add that there's a lot more to the enterprise market than the high-end executive stuff we've seen so far.I talked with two IT managers this morning, and one had a 400 device BlackBerry solution just for corporate executives. The other had over 1,000 for corporate executives and a field sales team.In comparison, I routinely see case studies for deployments of thousands of ruggedized handhelds for field service, logistics, transportation and shop floor personnel -- most of these solutions are focused exclusively on enterprise applications and do not include e-mail.In these types of environments, IT professionals are looking for a solid mobile management platform to support the enterprise applications, provision policies, support devices and ultimately to provide VoIP integration. No single mobile e-mail or device management platform provides those capabilities today, and we're looking to IMS as a potential bridge between middleware, carrier services and mobile enterprise computing environments Carlo – it’s good to see some sensible analysis of this growing market. Last year, I arrived at a similar conclusion when I asked “Can Visto Make Their Numbers?” or at least the numbers they were predicting last year.Enrique makes some great points in his comment, and I’d like to add that there’s a lot more to the enterprise market than the high-end executive stuff we’ve seen so far.I talked with two IT managers this morning, and one had a 400 device BlackBerry solution just for corporate executives. The other had over 1,000 for corporate executives and a field sales team.In comparison, I routinely see case studies for deployments of thousands of ruggedized handhelds for field service, logistics, transportation and shop floor personnel — most of these solutions are focused exclusively on enterprise applications and do not include e-mail.In these types of environments, IT professionals are looking for a solid mobile management platform to support the enterprise applications, provision policies, support devices and ultimately to provide VoIP integration. No single mobile e-mail or device management platform provides those capabilities today, and we’re looking to IMS as a potential bridge between middleware, carrier services and mobile enterprise computing environments

]]> By: Mobile Enterprise Weblog http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2005/11/28/rim-looking-over-the-wrong-shoulder/comment-page-1/#comment-70 Mobile Enterprise Weblog Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:34:25 +0000 http://p6.hostingprod.com/@mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=63#comment-70 <strong>Contemplating Life Without BlackBerry</strong> December 1, 2005 Several years ago, Microsoft managed to capture the essence of imagination with a simple but effective tagline that asked , Where do you want to go today? This question suggested both possibility and individual empowerment - ideas Contemplating Life Without BlackBerry

December 1, 2005 Several years ago, Microsoft managed to capture the essence of imagination with a simple but effective tagline that asked , Where do you want to go today? This question suggested both possibility and individual empowerment – ideas

]]> By: Mobile Enterprise Weblog http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2005/11/28/rim-looking-over-the-wrong-shoulder/comment-page-1/#comment-69 Mobile Enterprise Weblog Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:39:58 +0000 http://p6.hostingprod.com/@mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=63#comment-69 <strong>Contemplating Life Without BlackBerry</strong> December 1, 2005 Several years ago, Microsoft managed to capture the essence of imagination with a simple but effective tagline that asked , Where do you want to go today? This question suggested both possibility and individual empowerment - ideas Contemplating Life Without BlackBerry

December 1, 2005 Several years ago, Microsoft managed to capture the essence of imagination with a simple but effective tagline that asked , Where do you want to go today? This question suggested both possibility and individual empowerment – ideas

]]> By: C. Enrique Ortiz http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2005/11/28/rim-looking-over-the-wrong-shoulder/comment-page-1/#comment-67 C. Enrique Ortiz Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:05:27 +0000 http://p6.hostingprod.com/@mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=63#comment-67 Hey Carlo... There are two mobile email business markets: 1) mass, and 2) enterprise. I totally agree with you with respect to #1. The mass email market is for those business people that don't necessarily use Exchange, but need business email over POP3, etc. In this market, carriers have the advantage, with the help of companies like Visto, Seven, etc. With respect to #2 which is most of RIM's market, and which is dominated by Exchange, then Domino (these are the large enterprises), is where RIM must watch out. This is the market I was referring to on my post. To address this is why RIM has been licensing their technology like crazy ÇƒÏ see http://www.cenriqueortiz.com/weblog/MobilityLandscape/2005/10/18/RIMs-Licensing-Strategy-Why.html I agree there is always room for improvement. I also agree the threat may not be immediate, but the threat is coming. At the same time, if we look at email, basic mobile email services are ǃ?good enoughǃ?. Imagine that Exchange get to offer push-email for real, and to global contacts, and secure connectivity, and my Nokia and other business phones have ǃ?nativeǃ? support for ActiveSync. There is no need for 3rd party. No need to pay for 3rd party solutions. Please note that I have written and sold mobile email clients, and I can tell you, companies rather not have another middleware to maintain. If you ask me today, I tend to think the killer mobile email solution is a purely client one, one that connects to the enterprise (and personal) ÇƒÏ no or minimal middleware, etc. Exchange is slowly but surely offering all the basic mobile email features; it is a matter of time before MSFT owns the mobility side of MSFT IT shops, again assuming handset vendors license and offer ActiveSync ǃ?nativelyǃ?. I would be concerned if I was an (enterprise-focused) mobile email middleware company. Cheers, CEO Hey Carlo…

There are two mobile email business markets: 1) mass, and 2) enterprise.

I totally agree with you with respect to #1. The mass email market is for those business people that don’t necessarily use Exchange, but need business email over POP3, etc. In this market, carriers have the advantage, with the help of companies like Visto, Seven, etc.

With respect to #2 which is most of RIM’s market, and which is dominated by Exchange, then Domino (these are the large enterprises), is where RIM must watch out. This is the market I was referring to on my post. To address this is why RIM has been licensing their technology like crazy ÇƒÏ see http://www.cenriqueortiz.com/weblog/MobilityLandscape/2005/10/18/RIMs-Licensing-Strategy-Why.html

I agree there is always room for improvement. I also agree the threat may not be immediate, but the threat is coming. At the same time, if we look at email, basic mobile email services are ǃ?good enoughǃ?. Imagine that Exchange get to offer push-email for real, and to global contacts, and secure connectivity, and my Nokia and other business phones have ǃ?nativeǃ? support for ActiveSync. There is no need for 3rd party. No need to pay for 3rd party solutions. Please note that I have written and sold mobile email clients, and I can tell you, companies rather not have another middleware to maintain.

If you ask me today, I tend to think the killer mobile email solution is a purely client one, one that connects to the enterprise (and personal) ÇƒÏ no or minimal middleware, etc.

Exchange is slowly but surely offering all the basic mobile email features; it is a matter of time before MSFT owns the mobility side of MSFT IT shops, again assuming handset vendors license and offer ActiveSync ǃ?nativelyǃ?.

I would be concerned if I was an (enterprise-focused) mobile email middleware company.

Cheers,
CEO

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