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	<title>Comments on: Location Based Marketing &#8211; Could it Really Work? Part Two</title>
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		<title>By: Emilius</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/01/31/location-based-marketing-could-it-really-work-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-35706</link>
		<dc:creator>Emilius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely LBM will be really big someday, but what is the state of the industry today.  I just want to ask, who the big players are in this field. Are there any asian players How successful are they.  What are the successful models.  How is the reception with advertisers.  Are advertisers beating their doors down    What are the demographics of the advertisers.  Sorry for barrage of questions, but I just wanted to get an insight to the present state of this emerging industry.  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely LBM will be really big someday, but what is the state of the industry today.  I just want to ask, who the big players are in this field. Are there any asian players How successful are they.  What are the successful models.  How is the reception with advertisers.  Are advertisers beating their doors down    What are the demographics of the advertisers.  Sorry for barrage of questions, but I just wanted to get an insight to the present state of this emerging industry.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Mentor</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/01/31/location-based-marketing-could-it-really-work-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-28587</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Mentor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m studying this area. Although it&#039;s new it is going to be huge. One-to-one marketing future has always been the way to go this now makes it easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m studying this area. Although it&#8217;s new it is going to be huge. One-to-one marketing future has always been the way to go this now makes it easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Location Based Marketing - Could it Really Work? Part Three at MobHappy</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/01/31/location-based-marketing-could-it-really-work-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-1621</link>
		<dc:creator>Location Based Marketing - Could it Really Work? Part Three at MobHappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In Part 2, we looked at some of the physical characteristics of LBM messages, that are essential to success, such as they should be free, not interrupt the mobile user and that they should quietly disappear when they have stopped being relevant. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In Part 2, we looked at some of the physical characteristics of LBM messages, that are essential to success, such as they should be free, not interrupt the mobile user and that they should quietly disappear when they have stopped being relevant. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 16:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jacomo - great post and topic.

But I also think that the definition of &#039;location-based marketing&#039; has to expand beyond just the concept of &#039;mobile.&#039;  It also needs to address the often-ignored elephant in the room and that is accurately defininig the user&#039;s location.  Cell phone triangulation is spotty at best, very few devices have functional GPS and neither work well indoors or in urban settings.

So when we think about location-based marketing, it should never be attempted unless you can nail the basics: 

First, make sure you can accurately and reliably determine the user&#039;s exact physical location - and there are new technologies that are becoming much better at doing this on &#039;standard&#039; devices.  Most of us operate within a defined zones - my home/neighborhood, my work place, etc. but the technology has not, until recently, been able to consistently identify my location.  Find out where I am and you can start to make educated guesses about my demographic/psychographic profile.

Second, deliver relevant content.  Instead of pushing $1 off coffee or go to the other end of the mall now and get a free pair of socks with every pair of shoes you buy, think like a direct marketer: I know your location, I know the time of day and I have a good idea of the demographic profile of people in that zip 4 area during those hours.  So here is content that is more likely than not to be of interest.

Once we nail the basics, we can then go after the real opportunities in LBM.  Big, real, deep pocket companies spend billions to deliver targeted ad/marketing content via snail mail to zip 4 demographic profiles.  THAT is the community we should be looking to serve and with the right technology/delivery vehicle and content we can.

LBM has the potential to be big-time...so lets stop thinking like coupon pushers and more like direct marketers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jacomo &#8211; great post and topic.</p>
<p>But I also think that the definition of &#8216;location-based marketing&#8217; has to expand beyond just the concept of &#8216;mobile.&#8217;  It also needs to address the often-ignored elephant in the room and that is accurately defininig the user&#8217;s location.  Cell phone triangulation is spotty at best, very few devices have functional GPS and neither work well indoors or in urban settings.</p>
<p>So when we think about location-based marketing, it should never be attempted unless you can nail the basics: </p>
<p>First, make sure you can accurately and reliably determine the user&#8217;s exact physical location &#8211; and there are new technologies that are becoming much better at doing this on &#8216;standard&#8217; devices.  Most of us operate within a defined zones &#8211; my home/neighborhood, my work place, etc. but the technology has not, until recently, been able to consistently identify my location.  Find out where I am and you can start to make educated guesses about my demographic/psychographic profile.</p>
<p>Second, deliver relevant content.  Instead of pushing $1 off coffee or go to the other end of the mall now and get a free pair of socks with every pair of shoes you buy, think like a direct marketer: I know your location, I know the time of day and I have a good idea of the demographic profile of people in that zip 4 area during those hours.  So here is content that is more likely than not to be of interest.</p>
<p>Once we nail the basics, we can then go after the real opportunities in LBM.  Big, real, deep pocket companies spend billions to deliver targeted ad/marketing content via snail mail to zip 4 demographic profiles.  THAT is the community we should be looking to serve and with the right technology/delivery vehicle and content we can.</p>
<p>LBM has the potential to be big-time&#8230;so lets stop thinking like coupon pushers and more like direct marketers.</p>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;they have to be free to receive.&quot;

And that is the largest sticking point... to all intents and purposes the internet and other traditional marketing channels are &quot;free&quot; while the mobile internet is definately not. Mobile operators are not likely to want to become simply a mobile ISP anytime soon so for the forseeable future we will be paying for data. 

However if the perceived value of the service is greater than the cost to receive it then a mobile marketing campaign could be sucessful but I&#039;m at a loss to know what services might attract a high enough response to be worthwhile. I look forward to the next part.

Susie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they have to be free to receive.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that is the largest sticking point&#8230; to all intents and purposes the internet and other traditional marketing channels are &#8220;free&#8221; while the mobile internet is definately not. Mobile operators are not likely to want to become simply a mobile ISP anytime soon so for the forseeable future we will be paying for data. </p>
<p>However if the perceived value of the service is greater than the cost to receive it then a mobile marketing campaign could be sucessful but I&#8217;m at a loss to know what services might attract a high enough response to be worthwhile. I look forward to the next part.</p>
<p>Susie</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Buckley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Buckley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacomo - I&#039;m pleased you liked the post.

I&#039;m not wedded to one technology over another, other than the fact it needs to be mobile. As such, in the short term, I don&#039;t think Mesh networks provide the solution that I&#039;d be looking for. Laptops aren&#039;t mobile in that I don&#039;t wander around an area holding my Laptop and PDAs are a dying market - which leaves wifi enabled phones right now - a tiny, tiny market.

So we need an interim solution, certainly for the mass market that marketers would be looking for.

In the future, mesh networks may well provide the tech solution, but that&#039;s 5 years  in my view. 

Of course, that doesn&#039;t mean that companies like I assume the one you work for shouldn&#039;t be seriously looking at this and starting to run your own experiments.

Russell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacomo &#8211; I&#8217;m pleased you liked the post.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not wedded to one technology over another, other than the fact it needs to be mobile. As such, in the short term, I don&#8217;t think Mesh networks provide the solution that I&#8217;d be looking for. Laptops aren&#8217;t mobile in that I don&#8217;t wander around an area holding my Laptop and PDAs are a dying market &#8211; which leaves wifi enabled phones right now &#8211; a tiny, tiny market.</p>
<p>So we need an interim solution, certainly for the mass market that marketers would be looking for.</p>
<p>In the future, mesh networks may well provide the tech solution, but that&#8217;s 5 years  in my view. </p>
<p>Of course, that doesn&#8217;t mean that companies like I assume the one you work for shouldn&#8217;t be seriously looking at this and starting to run your own experiments.</p>
<p>Russell</p>
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		<title>By: Jacomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why only focus on Cell based LBM, when these new Wireless Mesh networks being deployed Nationwide in metro markets of all sizes can provide a far better LMB solution.
Note the following:
1. No need for a GPS function to clutter up your Customer Access Device (cell phone)when the Wireless Mesh Node placement (light pole) is a perfect Location finder. Anyone within 1000&#039; of a Mesh Node can get a signal and access a local (Not a Nationwide) based LBM Server. This would allow the Marketing panacea of a Bullet Ad for anyone within reach of the closest Node and any surrounding nodes.
2. Wireless Mesh networks use the standards (any Best Buy retail) 802.11series radios that are ubiquitous and can easily allow download speeds/high quality/latency free connection (2-6Mbps) to one&#039;s Laptop/PDA and new large screen Smartphones with Wifi links.
3. The local LBM server can also be updated by the Advertiser to reflect daily/hourly or per minute changes using the same Mesh Network the susbcriber is accessing.

Great article and one that will help us (Service Provider) pay for some of our Mesh Distribution network.

Jacomo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why only focus on Cell based LBM, when these new Wireless Mesh networks being deployed Nationwide in metro markets of all sizes can provide a far better LMB solution.<br />
Note the following:<br />
1. No need for a GPS function to clutter up your Customer Access Device (cell phone)when the Wireless Mesh Node placement (light pole) is a perfect Location finder. Anyone within 1000&#8242; of a Mesh Node can get a signal and access a local (Not a Nationwide) based LBM Server. This would allow the Marketing panacea of a Bullet Ad for anyone within reach of the closest Node and any surrounding nodes.<br />
2. Wireless Mesh networks use the standards (any Best Buy retail) 802.11series radios that are ubiquitous and can easily allow download speeds/high quality/latency free connection (2-6Mbps) to one&#8217;s Laptop/PDA and new large screen Smartphones with Wifi links.<br />
3. The local LBM server can also be updated by the Advertiser to reflect daily/hourly or per minute changes using the same Mesh Network the susbcriber is accessing.</p>
<p>Great article and one that will help us (Service Provider) pay for some of our Mesh Distribution network.</p>
<p>Jacomo</p>
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