Comments on: Hiding The Mobile Internet http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/ Russell Buckley and Carlo Longino on mobile technology. Tue, 22 May 2012 09:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Shawn McCollum http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-4892 Shawn McCollum Tue, 16 May 2006 15:41:17 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/#comment-4892 One thing i've done for my mobile site is to provide a way for desktop users to use the site. I put up a page at http://wampad.com/full.asp, using bitty browser. It's basically a way to show people what they would see on their phone. Then you can use it on pageflakes, live.com and google's start page. I'm also working on a way to make the site useable via google sidebar and vista's sidebar. One thing i’ve done for my mobile site is to provide a way for desktop users to use the site. I put up a page at http://wampad.com/full.asp, using bitty browser. It’s basically a way to show people what they would see on their phone. Then you can use it on pageflakes, live.com and google’s start page. I’m also working on a way to make the site useable via google sidebar and vista’s sidebar.

]]> By: Mike http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-4766 Mike Fri, 12 May 2006 07:01:10 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/#comment-4766 The only reason is pricing. Everyone knows that it is expensive to access the net by mobile but no-one has a clue how much the data is costing, or how much each page/minute etc is costing them so steer clear. As i always preach, and anyone who knows me will be sick of hearing it, "geeks" designing products for the general public but only ever testing them on "geeks" will never work. (i use geek as an affectionate term for a techie) I am a non "geek" working in telecoms, and I don't access the internet on my awful XDA2s because O2 charged £18 in one day for browsing while stuck on a train, so will never use it again. Clear simple pricing, clear easy products, T-mob had it right to use Google as the home page now get teh pricing idiot proof and everyone will be happy. The only reason is pricing. Everyone knows that it is expensive to access the net by mobile but no-one has a clue how much the data is costing, or how much each page/minute etc is costing them so steer clear.
As i always preach, and anyone who knows me will be sick of hearing it, “geeks” designing products for the general public but only ever testing them on “geeks” will never work. (i use geek as an affectionate term for a techie)
I am a non “geek” working in telecoms, and I don’t access the internet on my awful XDA2s because O2 charged ¬£18 in one day for browsing while stuck on a train, so will never use it again. Clear simple pricing, clear easy products, T-mob had it right to use Google as the home page now get teh pricing idiot proof and everyone will be happy.

]]> By: Red Smurph http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-4752 Red Smurph Thu, 11 May 2006 18:50:19 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/#comment-4752 Regarding C. Enrique's comment: Yes, it's true that most users don't realize that when they download a ringtone, color picture or game they are actually using WAP, and the link to the content is increasingly sent via WAP Push, even though SMS is still much more common for that. WAP in this case is just a way to download a file. Consumers don't care at all what's being used. They only want the digital thing they paid hard-earned money for. Regarding C. Enrique’s comment:

Yes, it’s true that most users don’t realize that when they download a ringtone, color picture or game they are actually using WAP, and the link to the content is increasingly sent via WAP Push, even though SMS is still much more common for that.

WAP in this case is just a way to download a file. Consumers don’t care at all what’s being used. They only want the digital thing they paid hard-earned money for.

]]> By: Red Smurph http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-4751 Red Smurph Thu, 11 May 2006 18:43:31 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/#comment-4751 I agree with Eskil: Full access to the Internet is not a threat to operators, it's a big revenue generator. Same goes for IM, but that's another story. Operators have to realize they are WISPs. I agree with Eskil: Full access to the Internet is not a threat to operators, it’s a big revenue generator. Same goes for IM, but that’s another story.

Operators have to realize they are WISPs.

]]> By: C. Enrique Ortiz http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-4750 C. Enrique Ortiz Thu, 11 May 2006 17:12:43 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/#comment-4750 Putting the wallgarden issue aside, what I find interesting is that people may not know, or care, that they are actually using/accessing the Internet per se... And I find that interesting, as it is an indication of pervasiveness and transparency of the (mobile) web... Or, is this wishful thinking? :-) ceo Putting the wallgarden issue aside, what I find interesting is that people may not know, or care, that they are actually using/accessing the Internet per se… And I find that interesting, as it is an indication of pervasiveness and transparency of the (mobile) web… Or, is this wishful thinking? :-)

ceo

]]> By: Carlo Longino http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-4745 Carlo Longino Thu, 11 May 2006 14:48:03 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/#comment-4745 That's quite a generalization there, Jenny. That’s quite a generalization there, Jenny.

]]> By: jenny fielding http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-4743 jenny fielding Thu, 11 May 2006 14:38:19 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/#comment-4743 i find these numbers hard to believe - simplly because the technology in europe is superior and the people more sophisticated. i find these numbers hard to believe – simplly because the technology in europe is superior and the people more sophisticated.

]]> By: Eskil Sivertsen http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-4730 Eskil Sivertsen Thu, 11 May 2006 08:53:16 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/05/10/hiding-the-mobile-internet/#comment-4730 Carlo, you said it. Especially after we launched Opera Mini worldwide in January 2006, we see that people love browsing the full Web on their phones. With almost 3 million users browsing an average of more than 5 million pages per day, Opera Mini demonstrates the viability of the mobile Web. WAP and walled garden content has never really caught on, but with a powerful browser and the full Web at ones fingertips, people actually use it. And operators are cashing in big time in increased revenue per user for all the data traffic they generate. Opening the mobile Web is not a threat, but a great opportunity for mobile phone carriers. T-Mobile has realized this. Let's hope the others follow suit. Carlo, you said it. Especially after we launched Opera Mini worldwide in January 2006, we see that people love browsing the full Web on their phones. With almost 3 million users browsing an average of more than 5 million pages per day, Opera Mini demonstrates the viability of the mobile Web.

WAP and walled garden content has never really caught on, but with a powerful browser and the full Web at ones fingertips, people actually use it. And operators are cashing in big time in increased revenue per user for all the data traffic they generate. Opening the mobile Web is not a threat, but a great opportunity for mobile phone carriers. T-Mobile has realized this. Let’s hope the others follow suit.

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