Comments on: Here, We’ll Make This Mobile Thing Easy For You http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/ Russell Buckley and Carlo Longino on mobile technology. Tue, 22 May 2012 09:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Cleaning out the Links Drawer at MobHappy http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-64954 Cleaning out the Links Drawer at MobHappy Tue, 05 Dec 2006 16:24:39 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/#comment-64954 [...] Mojungle, a mobile media sharing service I reviewed and quite liked back in July, has put itself up for sale on eBay, starting at $60,000 --> [...] [...] Mojungle, a mobile media sharing service I reviewed and quite liked back in July, has put itself up for sale on eBay, starting at $60,000 –> [...]

]]> By: mojungle » mojungle Appendix http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-64146 mojungle » mojungle Appendix Mon, 04 Dec 2006 06:13:30 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/#comment-64146 [...] 1) SMS Text News 2) MobHappy 3) Abiro 4) SmartMobs 5) Mashable 6) 160 7) eHub 8) MediaBistro [...] [...] 1) SMS Text News 2) MobHappy 3) Abiro 4) SmartMobs 5) Mashable 6) 160 7) eHub 8) MediaBistro [...]

]]> By: MobileActive.org http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-21545 MobileActive.org Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:41:07 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/#comment-21545 <strong>Every Cell Phone Is A Media Outlet: Citizen Journalism and InTheFieldOnline.net...</strong> With the unfortunate events that are occurring presently in the Middle East I thought it would be a good time to bring to your attention a little project underway by my pal and fellow MobileActive Erik Sundelof (a fellows at Reuters Digital Vision ... Every Cell Phone Is A Media Outlet: Citizen Journalism and InTheFieldOnline.net…

With the unfortunate events that are occurring presently in the Middle East I thought it would be a good time to bring to your attention a little project underway by my pal and fellow MobileActive Erik Sundelof (a fellows at Reuters Digital Vision …

]]> By: Anders Borg http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-19417 Anders Borg Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:50:42 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/#comment-19417 Thanks Andy for your comments and that you were courteous :). The snippet I included here is actually part of a longer note about issues with Blogger Mobile, that also mentions Java vs e-mail/MMS yet in a slightly different context: http://www.abiro.com/news/2006/07/google-blogger-as-showcase-for-mobile.html I agree with most of your comments. I'm a Java ME developer, so I have some knowledge of the pros and cons. I though wrote a longer note with comments on two of them. In short: - one-click - finding and starting a Java application is not one-click etc (the usual stuff...) - costs - MMS is actually competitive to data in some countries, and can increasingly be so due to competition But I don't think it's of interest to the broader audience. If you want the info you can let me know via my feedback form. No strings attached. Cheers, Anders Borg Thanks Andy for your comments and that you were courteous :) .

The snippet I included here is actually part of a longer note about issues with Blogger Mobile, that also mentions Java vs e-mail/MMS yet in a slightly different context:
http://www.abiro.com/news/2006/07/google-blogger-as-showcase-for-mobile.html

I agree with most of your comments. I’m a Java ME developer, so I have some knowledge of the pros and cons. I though wrote a longer note with comments on two of them. In short:
- one-click – finding and starting a Java application is not one-click etc (the usual stuff…)
- costs – MMS is actually competitive to data in some countries, and can increasingly be so due to competition
But I don’t think it’s of interest to the broader audience. If you want the info you can let me know via my feedback form. No strings attached.

Cheers,
Anders Borg

]]> By: MMS Usage Up 40% In The US at MobHappy http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-18985 MMS Usage Up 40% In The US at MobHappy Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:22:16 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/#comment-18985 [...] So it looks like more people are starting to use MMS, or are at least trying it. One factor that could be driving this is a change in pricing — most of the major US carriers now price all messages the same, if users buy them in bundles or buy an unlimited plan. I haven’t been able to figure out if there’s some activity creating a large mass of heavy users (like moblogging could do), and I’ve checked with my crack youth focus group to see if there’s something the kids are doing that I’m missing out on, but that’s drawn a blank as well. So what gives? Any ideas? [...] [...] So it looks like more people are starting to use MMS, or are at least trying it. One factor that could be driving this is a change in pricing — most of the major US carriers now price all messages the same, if users buy them in bundles or buy an unlimited plan. I haven’t been able to figure out if there’s some activity creating a large mass of heavy users (like moblogging could do), and I’ve checked with my crack youth focus group to see if there’s something the kids are doing that I’m missing out on, but that’s drawn a blank as well. So what gives? Any ideas? [...]

]]> By: Andy Tiller http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-18883 Andy Tiller Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:47:12 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/#comment-18883 For those who are interested, here's how to set up mojungle as a ShoZu destination - http://forum.shozu.com/showthread.php?tid=93&pid=357#pid357. I guess I should also respond to Anders point that "there‚Äôs no real reason for making a Java application for sending audio, photos or videos to blogs...any longer". In a way, I agree - handset manufacturers have made messaging pretty easy these days. But there are still some reasons to install an app (Symbian, Microsoft, Java, BREW...). In the case of ShoZu, for example... - Uploads are even easier (one-click) - 50% less data than wireless email (therefore cheaper) - Full quality images and videos (unlike MMS) - currently ShoZu has a limit of 4 MB, but we're being quite conservative and will probably raise this in future - Resume uploads automatically from point of failure after any interruptions (saves hassle and data costs) - Add or edit tags, titles and descriptions from your phone - before or after upload - Tells you when upload is complete - Read and reply to comments from your phone - Send or post your photo / video to as many destinations as you like, on as many occasions as you like, but only pay for one upload over the air. Hope that's helpful. I don't mean to argue against Anders, just to point out why some users (especially those who do a lot of mobile blogging) find client apps useful. Cheers Andy For those who are interested, here’s how to set up mojungle as a ShoZu destination – http://forum.shozu.com/showthread.php?tid=93&pid=357#pid357.

I guess I should also respond to Anders point that “there‚Äôs no real reason for making a Java application for sending audio, photos or videos to blogs…any longer”.

In a way, I agree – handset manufacturers have made messaging pretty easy these days. But there are still some reasons to install an app (Symbian, Microsoft, Java, BREW…). In the case of ShoZu, for example…

- Uploads are even easier (one-click)
- 50% less data than wireless email (therefore cheaper)
- Full quality images and videos (unlike MMS) – currently ShoZu has a limit of 4 MB, but we’re being quite conservative and will probably raise this in future
- Resume uploads automatically from point of failure after any interruptions (saves hassle and data costs)
- Add or edit tags, titles and descriptions from your phone – before or after upload
- Tells you when upload is complete
- Read and reply to comments from your phone
- Send or post your photo / video to as many destinations as you like, on as many occasions as you like, but only pay for one upload over the air.

Hope that’s helpful. I don’t mean to argue against Anders, just to point out why some users (especially those who do a lot of mobile blogging) find client apps useful.

Cheers

Andy

]]> By: Brent Brookler http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-18572 Brent Brookler Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:25:06 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/#comment-18572 I totally agree with your statements that there is not only a need but an opportunity for deep mobile integration into social networking and media sharing web sites. There are some great web sites and mobile only applications, but none out there that are focusing on delivering an integrated approach to both platforms. I totally agree with your statements that there is not only a need but an opportunity for deep mobile integration into social networking and media sharing web sites. There are some great web sites and mobile only applications, but none out there that are focusing on delivering an integrated approach to both platforms.

]]> By: Andy Tiller http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-18527 Andy Tiller Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:30:44 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/#comment-18527 You can upload photos and videos to mojungle using ShoZu. Just tried it - works great! You can upload photos and videos to mojungle using ShoZu. Just tried it – works great!

]]> By: Anders Borg http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-18452 Anders Borg Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:56:09 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/#comment-18452 In newer phones I've found that it's easy (at least much easier than before) to take a photo, record video or voice and send that as an MMS or e-mail, so some aspects of phone use have been improved considerably, and there's no real reason for making a Java application for sending audio, photos or videos to blogs and social networks any longer, which is quite beneficial to service providers: no need to tackle the "fragmentation hell" of Java, and simply no need to do anything on the phone side at all. This is of course provided that e-mail or MMS have been configured properly beforehand. In newer phones I’ve found that it’s easy (at least much easier than before) to take a photo, record video or voice and send that as an MMS or e-mail, so some aspects of phone use have been improved considerably, and there’s no real reason for making a Java application for sending audio, photos or videos to blogs and social networks any longer, which is quite beneficial to service providers: no need to tackle the “fragmentation hell” of Java, and simply no need to do anything on the phone side at all. This is of course provided that e-mail or MMS have been configured properly beforehand.

]]> By: Matt http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/comment-page-1/#comment-18422 Matt Tue, 18 Jul 2006 02:12:42 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/07/17/here-well-make-this-mobile-thing-easy-for-you/#comment-18422 After having done some experimentation in this space (<a href="http://www.where.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.where.com</a>), I'd say there are several things that can slow these types of services from reaching the mainstream: 1) Mobile data plans can be expensive and complex. 2) Phone interfaces for sending photos/videos to an email address can be cumbersome; 10 taps before entering the destination email address is not uncommon. 3) Typical web marketing techniques rarely succeed in getting people to pick up their phones and try something new (it's much easier to get a mobile user's attention when they're bored and offline). For a reference point on this market, a site like PhotoBucket represents <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/04/19/2-of-us-internet-traffic-through-photobucket/" rel="nofollow">2%</a> of all US Internet traffic, and yet is only doing <a href="http://gigaom.com/2006/07/13/photobucket-mobile/" rel="nofollow">34,000</a> mobile uploads a day. The good news is that the mobile space continues to grow and the technology is in place to put our mobile photos and videos online and share with others. After having done some experimentation in this space (http://www.where.com), I’d say there are several things that can slow these types of services from reaching the mainstream:

1) Mobile data plans can be expensive and complex.
2) Phone interfaces for sending photos/videos to an email address can be cumbersome; 10 taps before entering the destination email address is not uncommon.
3) Typical web marketing techniques rarely succeed in getting people to pick up their phones and try something new (it’s much easier to get a mobile user’s attention when they’re bored and offline).

For a reference point on this market, a site like PhotoBucket represents 2% of all US Internet traffic, and yet is only doing 34,000 mobile uploads a day.

The good news is that the mobile space continues to grow and the technology is in place to put our mobile photos and videos online and share with others.

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