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	<description>Russell Buckley and Carlo Longino on mobile technology.</description>
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		<title>By: Ross Hill, Cover Hunt</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2007/01/10/iphone-thoughts-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-99475</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Hill, Cover Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve can say 1% is enough now, because he doesn&#039;t have to pitch to VCs. He is very careful with his words. Back at business school he wouldn&#039;t have said anything like that! 

&quot;Video ipod? Don&#039;t be silly&quot;
&quot;Here&#039;s the ipod video!&quot;

1% is only his milestone TODAY, not particularly tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve can say 1% is enough now, because he doesn&#8217;t have to pitch to VCs. He is very careful with his words. Back at business school he wouldn&#8217;t have said anything like that! </p>
<p>&#8220;Video ipod? Don&#8217;t be silly&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Here&#8217;s the ipod video!&#8221;</p>
<p>1% is only his milestone TODAY, not particularly tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: reno marioni</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2007/01/10/iphone-thoughts-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-96861</link>
		<dc:creator>reno marioni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 02:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly hope steve jobs doesn&#039;t take the walled garden approach to third-party mobile applications developers as he has stated in making the iPhone a closed system for mobile application developers.  I also hope his team at least consider a developer program and SDK so that applications can at least be certified.....this to me is the biggest strategic flaw in the iPhone as they would be the only major handset manufacturer not to have developer support (e.g Brew, Java ME, Symbian, Palm, et al.).  This would be a shame with a handset that supports OS X Lite.

Had they done the MVNO route, aka Apple Mobile, they would not be at the mercy of the carrier.  

Lastly, at $600, I would have included a SiRF GPS chip as this would make the device truely more powerful at a very marginal cost.

We&#039;ll see what they do in the next few months........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly hope steve jobs doesn&#8217;t take the walled garden approach to third-party mobile applications developers as he has stated in making the iPhone a closed system for mobile application developers.  I also hope his team at least consider a developer program and SDK so that applications can at least be certified&#8230;..this to me is the biggest strategic flaw in the iPhone as they would be the only major handset manufacturer not to have developer support (e.g Brew, Java ME, Symbian, Palm, et al.).  This would be a shame with a handset that supports OS X Lite.</p>
<p>Had they done the MVNO route, aka Apple Mobile, they would not be at the mercy of the carrier.  </p>
<p>Lastly, at $600, I would have included a SiRF GPS chip as this would make the device truely more powerful at a very marginal cost.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see what they do in the next few months&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: hip2b2</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2007/01/10/iphone-thoughts-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-96279</link>
		<dc:creator>hip2b2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who don&#039;t want a Cingular (or shall we start calling it AT&amp;T wireless) plan but likes what you see in the iPhone why not just get an &lt;a href=&quot;http://hip2b2.yutivo.org/2007/01/12/apple-iphone-and-lg-ke850-the-tale-of-two-phones-ii&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LG KE850&lt;/a&gt; (back posted)? A solution to iPhone envy for the rest of us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who don&#8217;t want a Cingular (or shall we start calling it AT&amp;T wireless) plan but likes what you see in the iPhone why not just get an <a href="http://hip2b2.yutivo.org/2007/01/12/apple-iphone-and-lg-ke850-the-tale-of-two-phones-ii" rel="nofollow">LG KE850</a> (back posted)? A solution to iPhone envy for the rest of us!</p>
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		<title>By: More Views On The iPhone at MobHappy</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2007/01/10/iphone-thoughts-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-96273</link>
		<dc:creator>More Views On The iPhone at MobHappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A Weston 11</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2007/01/10/iphone-thoughts-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-96264</link>
		<dc:creator>A Weston 11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one that is seeing the apple/iphone/osx as a threat to the pursuit of open standards based mobile telephony and computing.

Take the &#039;Visual Voicemail&#039;.  It looks to me like a handset client which is sent audio files (voice messages), and presents them to the user in an inbox fashion.  Nothing remarkable about that, but carriers have not let that happen to-date because they make a packet from people dialling into voicemail.

Apple are clearly the only ones big enough to convince Cingular to throw this revenue stream away, in favour of a happy customer (who will probably make more return calls).  

Great thinking, but it&#039;s operator dependent, handset dependent, and I&#039;m presuming its a proprietary service (although it might be IMAP or MMS based).

If anyone knows better, I&#039;d love to be proved wrong, and see &#039;Visual Voicemail&#039; adopted by other carriers and handsets.  I&#039;m guessing Apple have the patent though???:-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one that is seeing the apple/iphone/osx as a threat to the pursuit of open standards based mobile telephony and computing.</p>
<p>Take the &#8216;Visual Voicemail&#8217;.  It looks to me like a handset client which is sent audio files (voice messages), and presents them to the user in an inbox fashion.  Nothing remarkable about that, but carriers have not let that happen to-date because they make a packet from people dialling into voicemail.</p>
<p>Apple are clearly the only ones big enough to convince Cingular to throw this revenue stream away, in favour of a happy customer (who will probably make more return calls).  </p>
<p>Great thinking, but it&#8217;s operator dependent, handset dependent, and I&#8217;m presuming its a proprietary service (although it might be IMAP or MMS based).</p>
<p>If anyone knows better, I&#8217;d love to be proved wrong, and see &#8216;Visual Voicemail&#8217; adopted by other carriers and handsets.  I&#8217;m guessing Apple have the patent though???:-(</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Pemberton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Pemberton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great discussion. The iPhone reactions have shown the differences between US and non-US mobile behaviors in a poignant, illustrative way. Cool, no keyboard! vs. Are you kidding? No keyboard?

Russell, I admit to bristling when you said it&#039;s just a music phone. But, after reading Tomi&#039;s well articulated open letter and follow up piece, I understood even better how that could be a prevailing European/Asian reaction. 

So, rather than post a giant comment here, it spurred me to post &lt;a href=&quot;http://idlemode.com/2007/01/11/the-apple-iphone-music-phone-or-smartphone-part-iii/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my reaction to these sentiments&lt;/a&gt;. In a nutshell, my take is that yes, it&#039;s the next progression in the iPod line, but it&#039;s so much more than a music phone. And though purists won&#039;t call it a smartphone, it&#039;s the prosumer version that is totally appropriate in this phase of mobile development in the US (as we catch up the the rest of the world in adopting advanced features).

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great discussion. The iPhone reactions have shown the differences between US and non-US mobile behaviors in a poignant, illustrative way. Cool, no keyboard! vs. Are you kidding? No keyboard?</p>
<p>Russell, I admit to bristling when you said it&#8217;s just a music phone. But, after reading Tomi&#8217;s well articulated open letter and follow up piece, I understood even better how that could be a prevailing European/Asian reaction. </p>
<p>So, rather than post a giant comment here, it spurred me to post <a href="http://idlemode.com/2007/01/11/the-apple-iphone-music-phone-or-smartphone-part-iii/" rel="nofollow">my reaction to these sentiments</a>. In a nutshell, my take is that yes, it&#8217;s the next progression in the iPod line, but it&#8217;s so much more than a music phone. And though purists won&#8217;t call it a smartphone, it&#8217;s the prosumer version that is totally appropriate in this phase of mobile development in the US (as we catch up the the rest of the world in adopting advanced features).</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; Balance on the iPhone (and iPhone as the Sex Pistols)</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; Balance on the iPhone (and iPhone as the Sex Pistols)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rich Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is round 1. Apple wins by KO, without ever shipping anything.

Palm, as witnessed by their CEO&#039;s stupid comments a week or so prior, had no clue this was coming. No one did.

Who can do that? Apple.

Microsoft? Again, no clue, apparently.

The point is not that apple can keep secrets. The point is that they are innovating. This is round 1, folks. In a few years there will be a suite of iPhone models, some for people tethered to carriers for service, some for people willing to go VOIP/WIMAX.

Nobody else can realistically compete with that. Put Nokia and Microsoft&#039;s best next to the iPhone. They do not even remotely compare.

Who else will spend 30 months in total secrecy to ship one model? Only Apple can do that and succeed.

Convergence just happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is round 1. Apple wins by KO, without ever shipping anything.</p>
<p>Palm, as witnessed by their CEO&#8217;s stupid comments a week or so prior, had no clue this was coming. No one did.</p>
<p>Who can do that? Apple.</p>
<p>Microsoft? Again, no clue, apparently.</p>
<p>The point is not that apple can keep secrets. The point is that they are innovating. This is round 1, folks. In a few years there will be a suite of iPhone models, some for people tethered to carriers for service, some for people willing to go VOIP/WIMAX.</p>
<p>Nobody else can realistically compete with that. Put Nokia and Microsoft&#8217;s best next to the iPhone. They do not even remotely compare.</p>
<p>Who else will spend 30 months in total secrecy to ship one model? Only Apple can do that and succeed.</p>
<p>Convergence just happened.</p>
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		<title>By: leo fish</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a middle aged ex-hippie :-)</description>
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		<title>By: James Quintana Pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Quintana Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve done some cool stuff with reading SMS -- grouping by sender instead of chronologically and displaying the message in speech bubbles as part of an on-going conversation. There&#039;s probably been something similar in Asia for a while...while it looks good it&#039;s nothing more than eye candy. People don&#039;t need to sort messages that way. I am a little annoyed by the way everyone from Jobs to the press talks about writing SMS as if they still used multi-tap technology. The keyboard doesn&#039;t help much, you&#039;re not going to get faster than a numberpad with predictive text. Unless you&#039;re some middle-aged ex-hippie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve done some cool stuff with reading SMS &#8212; grouping by sender instead of chronologically and displaying the message in speech bubbles as part of an on-going conversation. There&#8217;s probably been something similar in Asia for a while&#8230;while it looks good it&#8217;s nothing more than eye candy. People don&#8217;t need to sort messages that way. I am a little annoyed by the way everyone from Jobs to the press talks about writing SMS as if they still used multi-tap technology. The keyboard doesn&#8217;t help much, you&#8217;re not going to get faster than a numberpad with predictive text. Unless you&#8217;re some middle-aged ex-hippie.</p>
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