Comments on: Nokia v Google – Battle of the Titans http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/12/04/nokia-v-google-battle-of-the-titans/ Russell Buckley and Carlo Longino on mobile technology. Tue, 22 May 2012 09:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: McGuire’s Law » Blog Archive » Business Observations: December 8, 2008 Edition http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/12/04/nokia-v-google-battle-of-the-titans/comment-page-1/#comment-125143 McGuire’s Law » Blog Archive » Business Observations: December 8, 2008 Edition Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:33:13 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=3019#comment-125143 [...] Nokia v Google - Battle of the Titans [...] [...] Nokia v Google – Battle of the Titans [...]

]]> By: Tommi Vilkamo http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/12/04/nokia-v-google-battle-of-the-titans/comment-page-1/#comment-125073 Tommi Vilkamo Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:00:59 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=3019#comment-125073 Why does everything have to be framed as a battle, or as somebody-trying-to-kill-somebody?* Personally, I prefer the mindset that we are here to create cool stuff for the people of earth, not to kill our competitors. And while there are areas where Nokia and Google offering overlap, I think both companies benefit enormously from each other's existence. Anyway, enjoyed the post :) --- * = actually, one experienced journalist once told me the answer already: framing something as a battle makes a good story => gets attention. Why does everything have to be framed as a battle, or as somebody-trying-to-kill-somebody?*

Personally, I prefer the mindset that we are here to create cool stuff for the people of earth, not to kill our competitors. And while there are areas where Nokia and Google offering overlap, I think both companies benefit enormously from each other’s existence.

Anyway, enjoyed the post :)

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* = actually, one experienced journalist once told me the answer already: framing something as a battle makes a good story => gets attention.

]]> By: Nic Brisbourne http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/12/04/nokia-v-google-battle-of-the-titans/comment-page-1/#comment-125069 Nic Brisbourne Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:42:29 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=3019#comment-125069 As you say in your comment above Russell, this doesn't look so good for Nokia. How many people do you know who have a Nokia email address? And I can't see them dominating the converged mobile-web music business either. The fact that they are in this battle will most likely push them towards some (more) high profile acquisitions though :) Great presentation from Omar at Essential Mediatech the other week btw As you say in your comment above Russell, this doesn’t look so good for Nokia. How many people do you know who have a Nokia email address? And I can’t see them dominating the converged mobile-web music business either.

The fact that they are in this battle will most likely push them towards some (more) high profile acquisitions though :)

Great presentation from Omar at Essential Mediatech the other week btw

]]> By: Carlo Longino http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/12/04/nokia-v-google-battle-of-the-titans/comment-page-1/#comment-125059 Carlo Longino Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:26:46 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=3019#comment-125059 I think "raise their game" is an understatement if they really want to compete in services (see my earlier posts...). As yet another example, <a href="http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/12/04/nokia-messaging-%e2%80%93-nokia-world-2008-announcement/" rel="nofollow">this post about the new "Nokia Messaging"</a> just caught my eye. So now, for email services from Nokia, there is: - Nokia Email service - Nokia Messaging - Mail on Ovi - the built-in messaging client on your Nokia device Compare that to Google's vast, convoluted array of mail offerings: - Gmail I think “raise their game” is an understatement if they really want to compete in services (see my earlier posts…).

As yet another example, this post about the new “Nokia Messaging” just caught my eye.

So now, for email services from Nokia, there is:
- Nokia Email service
- Nokia Messaging
- Mail on Ovi
- the built-in messaging client on your Nokia device

Compare that to Google’s vast, convoluted array of mail offerings:
- Gmail

]]> By: Russell Buckley http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/12/04/nokia-v-google-battle-of-the-titans/comment-page-1/#comment-125049 Russell Buckley Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:15:58 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=3019#comment-125049 Yes Scott, I agree. They do seem to be on the back foot and that's really what I meant with the Microsoft comparison. Surely that's been a lesson in focusing on what you do well, as opposed to worrying about other players too much. I don't think it's too late for Nokia to get a grip on things, but they do need to raise their game. Russell Yes Scott, I agree. They do seem to be on the back foot and that’s really what I meant with the Microsoft comparison. Surely that’s been a lesson in focusing on what you do well, as opposed to worrying about other players too much.

I don’t think it’s too late for Nokia to get a grip on things, but they do need to raise their game.

Russell

]]> By: Scott http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/12/04/nokia-v-google-battle-of-the-titans/comment-page-1/#comment-125048 Scott Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:08:38 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=3019#comment-125048 I was a little underwhelmed this time Russell. Granted I was not in the room to sip the Kool-Aid but doesn't each of the announcements seems like a "follower" rather than a "leader". Arguably, Nokia was first on many of these things and years ago too - Maps, App store (download!), OS - but all of the announcements were in response to the encroachment of others on ground Nokia would like to occupy but doesn't or doesn't anymore (particularly hurtful in the case of the N97 which however you dress it is built to compete against the iPhone and G1 rather than Nokia itself forging the path for others). I am a big admirer of Nokia's internet strategy but it looks like it needs to find inspiration from somewhere if it is to lead the pack. I was a little underwhelmed this time Russell. Granted I was not in the room to sip the Kool-Aid but doesn’t each of the announcements seems like a “follower” rather than a “leader”.

Arguably, Nokia was first on many of these things and years ago too – Maps, App store (download!), OS – but all of the announcements were in response to the encroachment of others on ground Nokia would like to occupy but doesn’t or doesn’t anymore (particularly hurtful in the case of the N97 which however you dress it is built to compete against the iPhone and G1 rather than Nokia itself forging the path for others).

I am a big admirer of Nokia’s internet strategy but it looks like it needs to find inspiration from somewhere if it is to lead the pack.

]]> By: Russell Buckley http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/12/04/nokia-v-google-battle-of-the-titans/comment-page-1/#comment-125045 Russell Buckley Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:00:39 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=3019#comment-125045 Good thinking, JT. Actually, it makes even more sense for TomTom as solus, specialist GPS units are about to be subsumed by GPS phones. Russell Good thinking, JT. Actually, it makes even more sense for TomTom as solus, specialist GPS units are about to be subsumed by GPS phones.

Russell

]]> By: JT http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2008/12/04/nokia-v-google-battle-of-the-titans/comment-page-1/#comment-125044 JT Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:43:02 +0000 http://mobhappy.com/blog1/?p=3019#comment-125044 Apple will tilt the balance towards Google, and dare I predict something will happen to TomTom (currently market cap is 500m, or 2% of AAPLs cash reserve),not for the hardware but because of TeleAtlas. Apple will tilt the balance towards Google, and dare I predict something will happen to TomTom (currently market cap is 500m, or 2% of AAPLs cash reserve),not for the hardware but because of TeleAtlas.

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