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	<title>Comments on: Facebook In Talks With Nokia</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Beazley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Beazley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, this is a no brainer. Phone manufacturers should jump on the Facebook bandwagon and try to leverage off of existing technology. Surely it would be more profitable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, this is a no brainer. Phone manufacturers should jump on the Facebook bandwagon and try to leverage off of existing technology. Surely it would be more profitable!</p>
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		<title>By: H.K.</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2009/02/12/facebook-in-talks-with-nokia/comment-page-1/#comment-126178</link>
		<dc:creator>H.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the integration is inevitable when facebook is investigating every which way to derive profits from itself without compromising the user&#039;s experience.

Creating one from scratch to become anywhere near what facebook has is almost laughable.  You were dead on in your September comments.  Hopefully this integration won&#039;t bring on more security risks, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.justaskgemalto.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this digital security&lt;/a&gt; site will probably cover it if they come up, so I&#039;ll be checking it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the integration is inevitable when facebook is investigating every which way to derive profits from itself without compromising the user&#8217;s experience.</p>
<p>Creating one from scratch to become anywhere near what facebook has is almost laughable.  You were dead on in your September comments.  Hopefully this integration won&#8217;t bring on more security risks, <a href="http://www.justaskgemalto.com/" rel="nofollow">this digital security</a> site will probably cover it if they come up, so I&#8217;ll be checking it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nokia e Facebook: accordo in arrivo? - forse l&#8217;annuncio al MWC : Spaziocellulare News Magazine</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2009/02/12/facebook-in-talks-with-nokia/comment-page-1/#comment-126174</link>
		<dc:creator>Nokia e Facebook: accordo in arrivo? - forse l&#8217;annuncio al MWC : Spaziocellulare News Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A smorzare un po&#8217; l&#8217;entiusiasmo il giornalista aggiunge che le trattative stanno andando avanti ormai da mesi e non si sa se si raggiungerà mai un accordo, anche perchè la Nokia sta decidendo se utilizzare un socila network già rodato come Facebook o crearne uno nuovo da zero. Staremo a vedere. Comunque Nokia e Facebook dovrebbero fare un annuncio al riguardo nel corso del Mobile World Congress della prossima settimana. Ne sapremo di più allora. (via: MobHappy) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A smorzare un po&#8217; l&#8217;entiusiasmo il giornalista aggiunge che le trattative stanno andando avanti ormai da mesi e non si sa se si raggiungerà mai un accordo, anche perchè la Nokia sta decidendo se utilizzare un socila network già rodato come Facebook o crearne uno nuovo da zero. Staremo a vedere. Comunque Nokia e Facebook dovrebbero fare un annuncio al riguardo nel corso del Mobile World Congress della prossima settimana. Ne sapremo di più allora. (via: MobHappy) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bebo pushing mobile &#171; Mobiletribe</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2009/02/12/facebook-in-talks-with-nokia/comment-page-1/#comment-126172</link>
		<dc:creator>Bebo pushing mobile &#171; Mobiletribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rumours that Facebook and Nokia will get cosy with each other as most recetly reported by Carlo at MobHappy. Two slightly different approaches with the same goal, world dominance in the mobile social [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rumours that Facebook and Nokia will get cosy with each other as most recetly reported by Carlo at MobHappy. Two slightly different approaches with the same goal, world dominance in the mobile social [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mariana Oliveira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariana Oliveira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for Nokia! Building its own social network it&#039;s not easy. Facebook want to invest on mobile market, Nokia want a social network. It&#039;s just perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for Nokia! Building its own social network it&#8217;s not easy. Facebook want to invest on mobile market, Nokia want a social network. It&#8217;s just perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmad Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MobHappy » Blog Archive » Facebook In Talks With Nokia</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2009/02/12/facebook-in-talks-with-nokia/comment-page-1/#comment-126166</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmad Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MobHappy » Blog Archive » Facebook In Talks With Nokia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Facebook and Nokia alliance in the air? &#124; HungryMobile Blog by Jan Rezab</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2009/02/12/facebook-in-talks-with-nokia/comment-page-1/#comment-126161</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook and Nokia alliance in the air? &#124; HungryMobile Blog by Jan Rezab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mobhappy informs, that Facebook and Nokia are in talks about cooperation and embedding the Nokia devices even more with Facebook features - maybe even phonebook! But will Nokia finally do this with Facebook, or decide to build a new, independent social network? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mobhappy informs, that Facebook and Nokia are in talks about cooperation and embedding the Nokia devices even more with Facebook features &#8211; maybe even phonebook! But will Nokia finally do this with Facebook, or decide to build a new, independent social network? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Rezab</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2009/02/12/facebook-in-talks-with-nokia/comment-page-1/#comment-126160</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Rezab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it is complicated to say - to build a new mobile social network - whom else has the power other then Nokia to do this? 

On the other hand, isn&#039;t it better to just team up with the largest player in the world? From my user perspective, it would be best - on the other hand the question also is, if Facebook will share for example e-mail contacts with Nokia, and will want to send messages via Facebook, or allow Nokia to send them through e-mail.

Normally e-mails are not accessible via Facebook for app. developers - and if Nokia does, then I believe it will be OK to move with the relationship.

It&#039;s a complicated matter, and will be interesting to see how it gets resolved. 

Otherwise on Symbian, any 3rd party developer could come in and connect phone book and Facebook contacts - that&#039;s fairly easy. 

And let&#039;s not forget the Facebook side of things - if you have all your phone contacts on Facebook, that gives a lot of strength to these guys for moving forward and acquiring new people, as they will now about a lot of things going on.

Jan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it is complicated to say &#8211; to build a new mobile social network &#8211; whom else has the power other then Nokia to do this? </p>
<p>On the other hand, isn&#8217;t it better to just team up with the largest player in the world? From my user perspective, it would be best &#8211; on the other hand the question also is, if Facebook will share for example e-mail contacts with Nokia, and will want to send messages via Facebook, or allow Nokia to send them through e-mail.</p>
<p>Normally e-mails are not accessible via Facebook for app. developers &#8211; and if Nokia does, then I believe it will be OK to move with the relationship.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a complicated matter, and will be interesting to see how it gets resolved. </p>
<p>Otherwise on Symbian, any 3rd party developer could come in and connect phone book and Facebook contacts &#8211; that&#8217;s fairly easy. </p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget the Facebook side of things &#8211; if you have all your phone contacts on Facebook, that gives a lot of strength to these guys for moving forward and acquiring new people, as they will now about a lot of things going on.</p>
<p>Jan</p>
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		<title>By: James Pearce</title>
		<link>http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2009/02/12/facebook-in-talks-with-nokia/comment-page-1/#comment-126159</link>
		<dc:creator>James Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said as much over on the TechCrunch coverage:

It&#039;s the web.

Why would a hardware manufacturer (or an operator for that matter) dare to think they should be gatekeepers of a good mobile experience on a particular online service.

Nokia&#039;s doing a better job of providing higher level services in addition to the plastic - but still, that would suggest they should compete with Facebook.

This is like AOL doing a deal with Compaq to get their web shortcut on a default PC install in the mid 90s. BFD.

Anyway, all that aside, they should hook up with LinkedIn instead. A far more lucrative, aligned, demographic for the &#039;professional&#039; aspect of the Nokia brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said as much over on the TechCrunch coverage:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the web.</p>
<p>Why would a hardware manufacturer (or an operator for that matter) dare to think they should be gatekeepers of a good mobile experience on a particular online service.</p>
<p>Nokia&#8217;s doing a better job of providing higher level services in addition to the plastic &#8211; but still, that would suggest they should compete with Facebook.</p>
<p>This is like AOL doing a deal with Compaq to get their web shortcut on a default PC install in the mid 90s. BFD.</p>
<p>Anyway, all that aside, they should hook up with LinkedIn instead. A far more lucrative, aligned, demographic for the &#8216;professional&#8217; aspect of the Nokia brand.</p>
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		<title>By: Per-Fredrik Hagermark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Per-Fredrik Hagermark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree on that no Nokia community or Samsung community would work. So to bring in an existing one might be good, but it only goes half way. Because like Teemu rightly points out, the lock-in is a barrier. Social netowrks by definition are open in all dimensions. Those are the best ones. 

Back to why a manufacturer or operator branded social network will fail: a) if you are a social netowrk user, well then you have by definition already made a choice and invested time to fill your profile and nurture that network. Hard to make the person shift then b) consumers gather in networks and tribes around common interests and passions. That is seldom a phone or an operator brand. Some in our industry might actually think so. If so that is just a sign that it is time for them to change jobs or at least get out in the real world and see how things work outside. That&#039;s the danger of working too long in our overly tech- and acronym heavy industry that historically has made a joke of itself in terms of really connecting to people other than the person with the purse to pay for the latest network upgrade etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree on that no Nokia community or Samsung community would work. So to bring in an existing one might be good, but it only goes half way. Because like Teemu rightly points out, the lock-in is a barrier. Social netowrks by definition are open in all dimensions. Those are the best ones. </p>
<p>Back to why a manufacturer or operator branded social network will fail: a) if you are a social netowrk user, well then you have by definition already made a choice and invested time to fill your profile and nurture that network. Hard to make the person shift then b) consumers gather in networks and tribes around common interests and passions. That is seldom a phone or an operator brand. Some in our industry might actually think so. If so that is just a sign that it is time for them to change jobs or at least get out in the real world and see how things work outside. That&#8217;s the danger of working too long in our overly tech- and acronym heavy industry that historically has made a joke of itself in terms of really connecting to people other than the person with the purse to pay for the latest network upgrade etc.</p>
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